If the Update Physical Properties on Save options is turned on, the affected files should be prompted to save. If required, click Select from Base to allow graphical selection of components from the base component window. They have a browser representation, have properties such as quantity, BOM Structure, Part Number, and so on. Solved by Cadmanto. If required, select the check box to mirror the derived part feature from the base part. Repeat the same process in steps 2 & 3 on the other parts. Creates a derived part with a single surface body. Use the Simplify command to reduce the content within an assembly by removing components, features, and output a simplified part file. Is this possible? I have never done this and I have to say that I don't remember seeing this question posted here before. Do not sell or share my personal information. You can now save and close your template file. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Later the parts are updated. Your choice!!! i have the same issue, but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated. Subtracts component from the derived part. There's little point in having lots of functionality if it doesn't give value. Solved by SEC_CAD. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. The BOM Structure property defines the status of the component in the BOM. If you save twice, it works. Create the new empty assembly and save it. It seems that the most logical way to approach this would be to use promote and demote. However, doing this on your existing subassemblies will modify them, which you specifically said you don't want to do. If you prefer, you can make the constraint adaptive by setting an option on the Assembly tab of the Application Options dialog box. I think you are correct on that one. I can upload the .stl version if you would need that. All the components must be at the same level within a single parent assembly. Although there is no CAD model in our template, a step file should have been created. I'm Inventor has a similar feature. A STEP file has no links to any of its origin files, and if you create a simplified part from an assembly and break the link, there is no longer any tie to the assembly and components. Solved by BDCollett. This is not correct. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Creates a derived part as a single surface composite which retains the appearance of the original components. They can resize or reposition relative to other components as necessary. Navigate to the SAT. I hope that the development team is aware! Drawings!). Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. By doing this we have reduced a lot of our Vault/Inventor related issues. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. A derived assembly may be a scaled, mirrored, or simplified version of the original. It seems update on physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies) setting does not work properly. In the browser, the top-level assembly is unavailable, and the new part is active. save the assembly as SAT file using Save Copy As. For part instances the instance number is iterated which yields "Part1:1", "Part1:2", and so on. If you just Save As to STL format, what do you get? Perhaps you can just save the original assembly as a new assembly and simply remove the unwanted parts. Model State. For here internal we have written an add in that will the normal user not allow to change some application options and we have given only the Admin the rights for this. I tried using pack and go on an assembly. If some settings could be changed only by admin, that would be great in Inventor! This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Hi! Parts or components that fit inside the bounding box are removed. New parts can be sketched on the faces of other components that have edges or features needed for the new part. Assembly features are features that show up in the assembly drawing and not in the part file. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2016, Inventor 2016, & Product Design Suite 2016. Specify the maximum diagonal value for a bounding box. As a side note, the derive functionality is also used for mirrored parts, substitute Level of Detail parts and simplified parts. What I need is to take some parts from subassembly A, some parts from subassembly B, and save those parts as a completely new assembly C. I don't want the assembly->subassembly relationship in the original file to be affected, I just want to create a new subassemly file without having to place and constrain all the individual parts again. Ask the community or share your knowledge. View. For PDM workflow purpose, I suggest the files to be prompted to save, so that the Vault always has the latest and greatest version of the files. Virtual components are considered and treated as real components for all practical purposes. It is set up this way to allow you to have additional processes done after the assembly, and for them to show on the correct drawings. Success! This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. I see a real big progress in the newest version of Inventor of course, regarding the application options. Click Open to close the Open dialog box. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. The Simplify command is not accessible when the model is in Express mode. I have all files unlocked (ready to be worked on), I shape them as I please, which is OK, then I want to save on TOP assembly, but it does not update the mass of it, eventhough all below assemblies get the mass and also the part. Open the destination assembly, expand the Model States folder, right-click the Substitutes folder, expand New Substitute, click Select Part File, and browse to the part file on disk. I'm going from memory on this process, so you might need to run through cautiously the first time to see if I've forgotten something. This option works, but only if you save it few times (at least 2), BUT if any sub-model is changed after top assembly is released, it will always need to update for the new mass, except if you "quick change" whole structure from changed part and above, which can be really time consuming and not effective. To begin, create a part file. You can save the assembly as a part, and then it's much easy to deal with in your assembly. Doing this will execute the StepExport rule and export the step file to the SavePath folder. Parts created in place (in an assembly context) can be: You select the default BOM Structure for the in-place component. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. Select features, bodies, surfaces, visible 2D and 3D sketches, work features, parameters, and iMates to include or exclude from the derived part. You can select more then one posting as the solution. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Do not sell or share my personal information, Activate one of the components/part file in the assembly where the feature appears. Selects element for inclusion in the derived part. Hi All,i have the same issue,but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated,is solidworks you do it in one "click"this is so useful when you need to convert assembly to simple part. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Go to Solution. Adaptive (controlled by relationships to other assembly components). You can make the new part associative to the parent part. The relationships between the leftover parts would be retained, though you may need to apply new relationships if certain parts were held together by removed parts. Solved by jmdnq9. When I've had a need to do something like this, I simply create a new subassembly_C in the top level assembly, and then save the top level assembly. Then I click the Save button while in the top level assembly and set subassembly_A and subassembly_B so that they will not save. Creates the smallest file on disk. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Hey, yes and no. They are added to the assembly and placed in the Model States Substitutes folder. If you can't get the result you expect, attach the STEP file here for others to have a look at if that's allowable. If you ever need to convert an assembly file to a part file, use the Derive workflow. In the property panel, modify any of the following as needed: Initial State - select a different model state, design view, or position view, Components - include or exclude additional parts, Features - add or refine the parameters for features being removed. This sounds like a data management issue. If this solved your issue please mark thisposting "Accept as Solution". For example, an occurrence that is invisible is set to Exclude. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. Can't find what you're looking for? Now it works just fine. Then place them in a new assembly (just a temporary one). Inventor 2017.4.4 Update: INVGEN-6487: Fixed an issue where Rebuild all on a Frame generator assembly creates multiple Extends in part file INVGEN-13574: The browser node for Flush constraint now updates correctly when working with positional representations (except for Master) and setting values via API or iLogic. Try it and see if you get the same results. If the Y-axis is perpendicular to the Top plane, the model is rotated so the Inventor Z-axis is perpendicular to the View Cube Top plane. #Autodesk Inventor Quick Tip: Simplify assembly to a single part 20. There are many other application options that have similarconsequences! This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Enter a meaningful name for the new part file. Creates a single solid body derived part with no seams between planar faces. The .Save2 will save without a confirmation prompt, unlike .Save. Excludes component from the derived part. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. This problem has nothing do to with above discussion. ____________________________________________________________. What's New:2022 Use the Simplify command to reduce the content within an assembly by removing components, features, and output a simplified part file. Will this have any affect on saving as a new subassembly? From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. If all you want is a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), >a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), You are such a great educator JD, it is unbelievable! I can upload the .stl version if you would need that. The virtual component is a component that requires no modeling of geometry and no file. At assembly level, the mass is aggregated from the parts (per quantity per Reference). Go to Solution. If needed edit the sketch and add dimensions in each part. Is this possible? Go to Tools -> App Options -> Save -> "Mass Prop Update", "Implicit Update", or "Recomputable Update" -> set it to Yes. You select geometry to add, subtract, or exclude from the resulting derived component. Click the Associative option to link the simplified model to the design view. Step 19: Save As The hard part is over, the assembly has been made and you've just added a new skill to your tool belt! You may also include or exclude sketches, work geometry, and parameters. An active selector has a blue highlight at the bottom of the control. (I already tried all 'Save As', 'Save Copy As', Export', etc options). I forgot to mention a couple things which was rather stupid, because they are important details. We have "Recomputable update" set to yes. whole assembly will be saved as a single part. If you save the assembly again (without save dialog for multiple files), it will update the mass with no problem. This is done by associating the geometry included from another part, and designate the part as adaptive. Regards, Igor. It's just what you're after, I think. Go to Solution. To begin, create a part file. What I did was save this assembly a new one, and then delete everything I didn't need. Solved by jmdnq9. Excludes element in the derived part. Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Enter a meaningful name for the new part file. Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. I've done a bit of research on it and I don't believe this particular question has been asked before. Autodesk Industry Marketing Manager UK D&MOpinions are my own and may not reflect those of my company.Linkedin|Twitter|Instagram|Facebook|Pinterest. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Can't find what you're looking for? (The iMate may be used, but not edited.). At least one component must have an Include status. Try it for yourself-- I just did. A simple save as part would be great for what's needed! Ask the community or share your knowledge. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Click the Representations tab to select a Design View, Positional, and Level of Detail representation. To my opinion it should either work in Inventor and In an environment with Vault to. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. I wish I could mark all of your posts as solutions because I essentially used elements of each to get my new file. The relationships between the leftover parts would be retained, though you may need to apply new relationships if certain parts were held together by removed parts. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. You can remove geometry by visibility and size to simplify the part. To edit the simplified substitute: To translate this article, select a language. Extruded features with From To or To extents to other assembly components are adaptive by default. If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. Whenever a part geometry is changed, the mass will need to be recomputed. Only iMates for top-level assemblies may be derived. With the geometry projected finish the sketch and extrude the feature in the part. Select the Hole patching options if required. In principle every feature; Option and tool that is available in Inventor should work with no problem in a Vault Environmenttoo. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. If you browse to the folder where you are saving the copy of your Assembly, you will see all the little parts being created. At the component instance level, you can override the structure to be Reference. The elements under the Solid Bodies or Surface Bodies folders. What exactly do you mean by "a solid body where I can't change anything?" Check your SavePath folder. Either you save or you don't. I'm open to suggestions for doing this another way, I just need a way to create an exploded view from components already in place but in separate assemblies. I notice that when I save the .iam file, it saves all its referenced parts to my User/Documents/Inventor folder instead of the same folder as where I am saving the .iam file. Disabled components remain included, however. Solution: Check one of the following: Option 1 Open Assembly file. A geometric constraint is applied (by default) between the selected face and the face created from the new sketch. While I have never done what you are specifically looking to do, I did just try it (grabbing different parts from random sub-assemblies) and I was able to RC and select demote with the dialog window coming up allowing me to choose a name and location. Usually, you set this option once as a workflow preference. When creating a part, you can project geometry from the face of another part. In Solidworks, there is an option to save an assembly as a part. When an assembly is released, it means that all components need to be released (not subject to further change). Or ifyou like something that was saidand it was helpful, Kudosare appreciated. Can anybody explain why this happens or it is a bug? This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Right-click the Substitute you want to edit and click, In the browser, right-click the substitute model and click, In the browser, right-click the and select. If the base part contains a single body, creates a single body part. It updates the mass of every sub-component (part or assembly), but not the top assembly, unless there is no save dialog for multiple files. If desired, turn off the Show All Objects check box to display only exported elements in the list. The mass need to be recomputed. Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. Legacy shrinkwrapped parts use the Simplify property panel when edited. You can do it in two clicks with Simplify. You should activate the part (double click, or rt click and edit) in the assembly before making the change if you want to see it on the part. The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. For a Vault environment this is called a Dirty Maker and is frustrating enough to update everytime. Hi i did that it didnt work. The only thing I expect is that if files are saved and checked into Vault, with the application options on: That the mass is calculated and filled in correctly. Granted, the OP was, > It would be a lot more useful (for me, at least). Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Can't find what you're looking for? Make sure that you expand the lower half of the copy design dialoge and click 'search' again to search for any files that are referencing the design you are copying (e.g. Glad you joined us from lurking in the shadows. Click the selection priority you want to use. Remove parts by size is deselected and the Exclude selector is active. To select all occurrences of the selected item click the All Occurrences option. save assembly and all parts ? Ask the community or share your knowledge. Changes in a model state affect the envelope size. However, this behavior may not be desirable for some users, who complain excessive prompting to save. More information about creating simplified part in: To Combine Components into Simplified Part Sketches that are not shared or consumed by features are included in the base component. https://forums.autodesk.com/inventor-ideas/application-options-changeability-blocking. Disable "Update physical properties on save". How to convert an Inventor Assembly to Part? Lets say you have found a cad file on google somewhere that you want to be using in your modell, lets say it is an assembly, and you want it to save as a file without connection to anyfiles, if you save it as step or as simplyfy parts even with braket link you still need the whole assembly to drag arround in order to open a single part, and if you want to move it to another map you need to drag all the assemblies part, what i do now i make simple part and then save as STL file in order to completely delite link to the assembly out of this world. 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