Must one know Christ how does someone know a corpse? Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Nothing in this post should be construed as an accusation of guilt. Coordinates: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}372314N 1215641W / 37.3872N 121.9448W / 37.3872; -121.9448. Golden State Baptist Schools in Bakersfield, California serves 12 students in grades Kindergarten-12. Wed love to keep in touch with our alumni! Its the fact that he never fessed up or even just decided to step down because he didnt feel right preaching anymore. (No mention of the victim though Giovanelli is the real victim here!). Asking. Engaging in a sexual act, sexual contact, or vaginal sex with a child under 18 who at the time of the sexual activity was a student enrolled in a school where the person was in a position of authority (i.e. I updated the post with this link. "Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." It states that "the activities on campus, the dormitory life, and the entire program of the college require the full participation and cooperation of every student." It contributes to some giving IFB churches a bad name because when they go out and try to pastor, and pretend like nothing happened, they invite criticism and deservedly so. More Info North Valley Publications The internet has also played a big part in keeping these men from leaving town under a cloud of suspicion, only to show up on the other side of the country pastoring a new church. Or when do we allow them to come back? Add an image Join others and track this artist Scrobble, find and rediscover music with a Last.fm account Golden State Baptist College. Students must have their music choices approved by staff members. Many of the books published by NVP are written by the college's chancellor, Dr. Jack Trieber. A response is pending. 6 or Matthew 18 as an excuse for doingthis. All you know about Jesus is what little is said about him in the gospels and what preachers have been saying about him for the past 2,000 years. So heres hoping that this video and the bravery of the victim and of Pastor Shiflett does indeed start a revolution within fundamentalism to hold abusers accountable. Well, this is one of the cases. Welcome to Ohio. You dont tell him your calling the Police. If not, this woman could go to the police could subject our church to a lot of unnecessary legal and media scrutiny. Its never too late to do better. Curfew for students is 10:30pm. The problem starts with pastors thinking its their divine right to be judge and jury. Follow the money, they say, if you want to see whats what. Today, the man charged with rape has been arrested and Concord's Trinity Baptist Church is at the center of that scandal for allegedly protecting one of its members and perhaps hiding the victim from police scrutiny. 1-888-GSBC-4-ME; info@gsbc.edu; 3520 De La Cruz Blvd. After it all went down, Shiflett tweeted: Its time now for all the leaders in our movement that have expressed support to me privately, to come out publicly and help change the culture in Fundamentalism. As iron sharpens iron, I know several that have done this and it irks me a little. That pastor trying to do his own investigation like that is almost like a random guy walking up on a murder scene and trying to investigate it for evidence before the police arrive. How do you know Christ was radical? Those who hide and deny are the ones who end up looking like the Pharisees they are when it finally does come out. I dont think I have ever been prouder of a fundamentalist preacher in all my life. Programs [ edit] Hes wrong. More By Golden State Baptist College. Threads 16 Messages 138. Giovanelli also served as the associate pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, and was reportedly supposed to be the president of North Florida Baptist College when it opens up in fall 2020. This past Friday, the church family and students enjoyed a wonderful evening at the Fall Festival, hosted by North Valley Baptist Schools. How many ministries when someone is caught, the police are properly called and the perpetrator handled by the authorities? The other sad thing is I have looked at the law in Maryland and because 16 is the age of consent there, the only thing that he could likely be charged with is for him maintaining a relationship with someone under 18 in which he had an authority position over. The world was way different. It was alleged that Giovanelli manipulated the student and engaged in inappropriate contact with her multiple times between January 2007 and August 2007. Theres a difference between being a preaching technician and being a leader. The supporters of Jack Hyles and First Baptist Church in Hammond, Indiana are, by far, the worst. Lauren, I am happy to know that you have managed your addiction but among non-believers what you have accomplished is replacing one excess with another. Thank you to all those who labored to make it such a memorable night! I would like to see an IFB#metoo take fire and burn its way through the old dried bullshit of well-swept, polished churches that have long gone scott-free with regard to rampant abuse. Tonight, the students and faculty of Golden State Baptist College enjoyed an extraordinary evening at the Fall Formal. Also I believe the statue of limitations of this crime said it was one year after offense occurred which would have ran out 11 years ago. Santa Clara, California: www.GSBC.edu. Are you trying to say that we know nothing about Christianity, Jesus, Evangelicalism, the IFB church movement, etc? The King Is Coming. The campus is equipped with a "dating parlor" with arranged chairs and tables for activities and seating. Isnt he now at the new college he founded North Florida Baptist College ? This a longer Sunday message. The Baltimore Sun has an interesting article on the new law: Regardless of the law on the matter, I agree with you that the church should have immediately reported the allegation to law enforcement. Very sad since this really is a disgusting that that hasnt been done. It only took 12 days. When it happens, and they are caught, they are exposed and the headlines make a huge splash. Tim Trieber and Hillview Baptist Church - 4th Anniversary. Playing the true Christianity is not a religion wont work here. When the victim finally went to the police, Shiflett said: I was so aggravated that all of my efforts to try and get this thing handled, to minimize the damage to the cause of Christ, the word in the community, to minimize the collateral damage that always happens with something like that. Every preacher across this land should follow his lead. 3520 De La Cruz Blvd. There job is to report it. Dont give in to terrible sadness just because you make a mistake in life or see yourself failing at something. We all mess up! It turns out, all I did was trade one racist, misogynistic disaster for another one. GSBC College Days Don't miss out on College Days at GSBC! North Valley Publications is a small publisher that specializes in books on Christian living and Church leadership. Kudos for speaking the truth and letting the shit land where it may. I just think that there is a difference between covering something up / trying to conceal a crime, and restraining from publicly convicting someone in a capacity that is not in a court of law, and before all the facts have come out (usually a court of law is necessary for this). Review changes Dealing with abusers in-house is no better than telling someone, I dont like the way you treated me so you cant hang out with me anymore. Its meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Want to help your child build lasting, meaningful friendships? Shiflett: I am very grateful for some very positive results today. This is a traumatic event in any event. Get it documented by the police. Why? Even if its not criminally prosecutable now, its character witness for the next time hesaccused. In a statement shared with WBAL-TV, Calvary Baptist Church said it stands by the victim and joins her in gratitude that Cameron Giovanelli will face justice.. Ive not seen anything that mentions this has been reported to authorities. You call the cops. Home; GSBC.edu; Contact Us; Home; GSBC.edu; Contact Us; Category / Academics. He brags about using politics to ruin the lives of non-believers and spreads out-right lies about Planned Parenthood. until she does we are all just assuming. Let us know what God is doing in your life. Reddit. 2019. They will be exposed and dealtwith. Just pray for all involved and if the accused is guilty and can be sent to jail so beit. Golden State Baptist College (GSBC) is an independent Baptist Bible college in Santa Clara, California, offering bachelor's degrees and master's degree programs in fields related to Christian ministry. ), Basically Shiflett was all like, #MeToo, and everyone else was like, Shun the nonbelievers!, What Shiflett did was incredibly brave, incredibly necessary, and I have to commend him for it. Plan to visit GSBC on March 27-28, 2023 for two action-packed days. He'll Do It Again. Trieber about how the staff member who raped two teem age girls, impregnating one of them. In this case, Im glad Shiflett is speaking up, but given the possibly criminal nature of whats going on, I am cringing at people handling anything inside here. If there are more victims that come forward that could change tho. I understand the desire/need to bury abuse and move on. Here I am, an out and proud atheist, feminist, liberal, humanist, activist for religious equality, gay rights, science and sex education, pretty much all the things this guy spends his days condemning and Im sitting here watching his preaching videos on YouTube and getting excited! This is especially the case when I consider that people rarely abuse just one minor. Id suggest you watch the movie Spotlight to see how ugly this practice canget. Good job to pastor Shiflett. May 29 2018. Oh the number of times I heard that in 5 decades of ardent faithit makes me question if he was a true believer in the first place He probably was as fervent as you were, but hypocrisy, preaching against something then doing it yourself is part of the broken system that x-tianity is. After the service, the mother of the pregnant girl wept hard and grabbed me and kept saying He promised us I asked her what she met and then she explained about the rape and the promise made to her. Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church have a bad track record when it comes to dealing with stories such as this, so they will not get a pass from me. The Fundy/Evangelical community needs to own this and dump the Purity Ring Banquets and Patriarchy Movement. 5. Brian, you dont know Christ so you have no idea what you are talking about. Human beings are more important than reputations. Yes, some fundamentalists have had a problem with cover-ups. He instilled things in me that took me years to realize. In 2006, Pastor Trieber began his 15-minute daily radio broadcast, " Revival Time ." It is aired on over 60 stations worldwide! This is exactly what Ive been yelling at my phone since this came out. God Is Still Good. Stacey Shiflett (@staceyshiflett) May 23, 2018. The General Information section highlights more rules for students. John Bunyan. Youre welcome. Vous profitez de 60% de rduction le week-end et pendant les vacances scolaires et 30% en semaine. October 24, 2022 Dell'Osso Family Farms The students experienced a beautiful and eventful day this past Saturday at the Dell'Osso Family Farms. Thats the good news. By this point, two other victims had come forward claiming Giovanelli did the same thing to them, but no one yet had any intention of contacting law enforcement. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. https://brucegerencser.net/2015/01/does-the-bible-say-thou-shalt-not-judge/. From vicious personal attacks to death threats, these fine Christians are more concerned with protecting the brand than doing what is right. Unaccredited master's degree programs are also offered. a principal, coach, teacher, or counselor whos at least 21 years old, employed by the school, and was in a supervisory position over the student), https://statelaws.findlaw.com/maryland-law/maryland-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html. Dont be so quick to believe every bad story you hear. If they were to pronounce the man guilty on a world wide stream of something he hasnt officially been convicted of, there would be the potential for a defamation suit from him. Dating is limited to "church dates" as well as planned activities on or off campus with chaperones. Golden State Baptist College Play artist More actions Listeners 131 Scrobbles 6,591 Latest release Onward to the Goal 30 April 2022 Popular this week God Wants To Hear You Sing 4 listeners Do you have any photos of this artist? You do not get to tell a victim how or when or where to talk about their experience. before knowing what they are talking about? Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Said it accomplished its purpose. Im saddened at this situation and more than a little angry at another example of churches handling matters like this in house. I know she filed the charges, but I havent heard the outcome. 2022. Who is Bruce Gerencser and Other Questions According to ChatGPT? Physical contact is prohibited, and intercourse is grounds for expulsion, and things such as kissing are also grounds for severe punishment. You really could give yourself more credit and stand freely as you are, a strong woman who decided to manage her excess. 2016. You dont say booh to him and your instructions to the victim and their family are the same. Golden State Baptist College is a ministry of North Valley Baptist Church of Santa Clara, California. Acceptance rate by state; Private School Review 244 5th Avenue, # J-229 New York, NY 10001. She originally wasnt going to press charges but because NVBC mishandled the situation on their live stream with their statement,she pressed charges Thursday morning. Christians Say the Darnedest Things: Coach Dave Daubenmire Exposes His Racism For All to See, Dr. David Tee Thinks Everyone Who is Not a Christian is an Atheist, Bruce, I Pray You Will Have Your Eyes Opened and the Truth will Guide You, Black Collar Crime: Evangelical Pastor William Tim Smith, Jr. Hope those liberals have something a little more substantial to start a revolution with than cardboard signs and a bunch of overweight gamers. Secondly, and please hear me on this, it doesnt take a Christian to recognize thatconcealing crime does not minimize damage to the cause of Christ.As someone who has a pretty negative view of fundamentalism, due largely to the behavior I have witnessed and experienced during my time in it, I can tell you that the best way to restore trust in those who have been hurt by the church is to stop hiding these things. First of all, thats what you were legally required to do in the first place, but no, your efforts were not wasted, not by a long shot. (Proverbs 27:17), Fundamentalist Pastor Calls Out Churchs RapeCulture, Shifletts YouTube video calling out the abuse, outing himself as a survivor as well, admitting fundamentalism has a problem withcover-ups, https://brucegerencser.net/2018/05/black-collar-crime-ifb-preacher-came, https://twitter.com/staceyshiflett?lang=en, I urge S/I members view the 18 min videoabove, Fundamentalism has a problem withcover-ups, Evangelicalism has a problem withcover-ups, Business world has a problem withcover-ups, Professional Athletics has a problem withcover-ups, Higher Education has a problem withcover-ups, Medical profession has a problem withcover-ups. In feeling, in allowing myself to feel and to talk about that in my family history (child of preacher) I was finally free to say goodbye to church, to faith, to sin, to all the sick ideas of religious indoctrination. Give yourself a pat on the back for trying! Giovanelli and went on to make Bro. To quote renowned Evangelical scientist Ken Hambo Ham, were you there? If you dont own your problems, your problems will own you. If any incorrect information is found, please contact Bruce Gerencser. It seems Giovanelli needs to wash behind his ears. A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs upanger. So why not give the Cops to get the guy on another charge. All responsibilities of any nature whatsoever, were permanently and immediately terminated with receipt of his resignation. The Criminal Investigator lets you know when you need tounderstand. Santa Clara, CA 95054. God, the Holy Spirit, prayer, feeling convicted, getting saved none of these things stop predators. All they could do is make sure he was fired / resigned and was no longer working their. October 25, 2021. We have a responsibility to hear all sides. As far as guilt or due process is concerned, thats for the courts to decide. I believe he did it and is guilty but I doubt a DA will pursue a misdemeanor offense that is past statue of limitations which also has the accused in another state that would require extradition. United States. In my 65 years of life it has been my experience that religion harms, that it is the world champion liar of all liars. During the course of that investigation, Cameron Giovanelli tendered his resignation to the ministry and his resignation has been accepted. What, by the way, is a clean life? And realize that when you suggest another Christian maybe wasnt really saved because they erred in some miserable, sick way, you are doing so to cover over your own pain. And barring prosecution, I hope the perpetrator will never be permitted to pastor or work with children/teens again. Nothing will ever get better as long as people stay silent. Church leadership has a responsibility with public sin to understand the facts of the case. In May of 1995, [] Being a preacher is not the same thing as leadership. You suffered harm by needing to become addicted and that happened because _______. Administrators PastorMatt Posted May 20, 2018 Another rule states that "The King James Version is the only English-language Bible that will be permitted on campus." Ya nobody wants to be associated with it so I understand the backlash but we have to understand that it is everywhere and we should do our best to expose it. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. North Valley Baptist Church has a history of this behavior. It is true in most all states that pastors are mandatory reporters of such problems. I have family who attends this church and they, to this day, are not sure of what happened beyond what appeared in the newspaper. Try not to feel so horrible for being merely human. Please consider your ways and change your mind. 3,456 were here. Hallelujah! 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